Who the hell are 'Choose Day'?

by green Sun Oct 28, 2007 14:03

Shame on people pushing Christianity by pretending to be something else!

by Joseph Hawkins Sun Oct 28, 2007 18:41 denial at climatechange dot com

I'm sorry but I don't see the conspiracy you're trying to manufacture here. Chooseday is a positive initiative to encourage a necessary and overdue behaviour change. Who cares if there's a religious motivation to that? We'd be a lot better off if all Christians (and everyone else) followed the creation care message in the Bible, anyway. And that's from an atheist.

Bristol Blogger, you are a paranoid delusional and are quickly becoming obsolete in a quickly changing Bristol where the call for sustainability and transition is making real headway.

If you choose your causes by who supports them, you will always be a follower, never a leader.

What could possibly be wrong with getting people to drive less in this city that's been slowed to a crawl and suffocated by exhaust-- aside from the issue of climate change?

by Woodsy Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:29

Joseph,

You give no reference for your 'creation care message' that supposedly appears in the Bible. The first quote that I can think of referring to man's relationship with the earth is right at the start of the Old Testament in Genesis Chapter 1, verse 28, which reads:

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

Sounds like a recipe to breed irresponsibly and screw the earth and everything on it in my opinion.

by Chris Sunderland - Agora Mon Oct 29, 2007 15:50 enquiries at agoraspace dot org

Dear Bristol Blogger,

I admire your research even if I dislike your tone and am particularly aggrieved at the way you attack my colleagues.

Eighteen months ago Agora's trustees decided we should commit the majority of our work to climate change, it being about the most serious issue that the human species has ever faced. Being the smallest of charities we needed to think carefully about what we could do and we have come up with Chooseday. People like the idea and it seems to be catching on. We intend to build as big a partnership across the city as we can, but will only stand a chance if people give it a chance and dont try to destroy it with pervasive cynicism. Agora does do some work with churches, but Chooseday is a completely non-aligned initiative, that is, it owes nothing to, nor is trying to promote any major city institution, political party or faith community.

If you would like to meet face to face to talk this through I would be happy to do so. In the meantime if you could possibly find some ability to believe that people can do things for good reasons that would be very helpful to us all.

Chris Sunderland

by David Rose Tue Oct 30, 2007 13:42 daviddoesbristol at googlemail dot com

Try working together ... rather than slagging each other off!
"Activist Zealots" are the problem.
Why are activists in Bristol so vile to each other?

This abuse over 'Chooseday' is appalling. Why try to undermine a group that wants to do something about global warming and excessive car use?

Because some people involved in 'Chooseday' are rich or Christians!

Oh, grow up, really!

These 'activist zealots' make me sick. They have become the problem. The State just divides , rules, stands back ... and laughs at their ridiculous posturing. Meanwhile the forces of repression and global destruction grow rich and powerful. Time is running out for the survival of our bio-sphere and they want to play student politics! This is evil!

I fear these 'Activist Zealots' ... freezing in their squats ... with their 'religious' fixed positions on gender, vegan-ism and everything else.

They are the new barbarians.

by Boyd Wed Oct 31, 2007 20:39

Whats wrong with knowing what the story is behind an organisation? OK, Blogger's article slags it off and is cynical, but there's no such thing as an unbiased opinion in these postmodern times, so you may as well wear your heart on your sleeve.

Maybe the best thing is to look into Chooseday and make our own minds up? I for one wasn't too impressed by what I saw on Points West on Tuesday (Corporate suit says "we aim to get 10% of our employees on bikes one day a week and then we can tick our ethical target box"), but hey, everything has to start somewhere I suppose!

As for David Rose's comments ....hmmm. Don't you think writing an article about how we divide ourselves and then including lines like "activists freezing in their squats" is a tad ironic?

Also, its hard to take your comments seriously when you call people (Like me presumably) "the new barbarians". Who are the old ones by the way? The famous rugby team that shocked the southern hemisphere in the 1970's? The Visigoths? Or just the last lot of people that didn;t fir in with your 'religious' vision of the future? :-)

by The Bristol Blogger Wed Oct 31, 2007 21:38

Why try to undermine a group that wants to do something about global warming and excessive car use?
Because some people involved in 'Chooseday' are rich or Christians!"

Oh yes. Because history demonstrates time again that the rich and their little christian helpers are truly wonderful people working selflessly in our interests does it not?

And as for these forces of repression and global destruction you're so concerned about, well they just magically appeared one day didn't they? Certainly nothing to do with the rich or those lovely christians are they?

Better stick to Facebook in the future Tory boy.

by David Rose Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:38 daviddoesbristol at googlemail dot com

You owe Chooseday a public apology, Bristol Blogger.

Chooseday are clearly trying to do something real about Global Warming and excessive car use in Bristol. They are making a positive effort to reduce carbon emissions and this is good work.

You, Blogger, are under mining their work and being negative. This is evil and you are in the wrong.

Not everyone can be as ideologically pure as you, Blogger and you should not attack them when they are doing their best to stop Global Warming.

Shame on you.

As for your personal attacks on me for being a 'Tory' (I am not) and using Facebook .... they are beneath contempt and I will ignore them ... in the same way that people should ignore you (whoever you are ...hiding behind your bogus name and your sad little blog).

It's people like you Blogger that keep the Tories and New Labour in power because your ideological purism and bigotry always splits what opposition there is to the capitalist class.

You also drive people to religion because you introduce cynicism and negativity into social/political life and you kill hope.

When people are trying to do something real about Global Warming ..... trying to do something about this catastrophe we all face .... I just cannot comprehend why the 'ideological purists' in Bristol Activism try to under mine and exclude those who want to do something about Global Warming. This situation just fills me with despair. What kind of people are you?

by The Bristol Blogger Thu Nov 01, 2007 21:12

Is this crap indicative of what passes for criticism and analysis now at Bristol University?
I know it's a college for thickos and inbreds from the Cotswolds, but really...

by David Rose Fri Nov 02, 2007 00:28 daviddoesbristol at googlemail dot com

May I repeat:

The Bristol Blogger owes Chooseday a public apology.

Chooseday are clearly trying to do something about Global Warming and excessive car use in Bristol. They are making an effort to reduce carbon emissions and this is good work.

Why would anyone (sane) want to stop them?

You were completing wrong in trying to undermine their
efforts to do something about Global Warming. You were just being negative.

What are you, Blogger, doing about Global Warming?

Why do you want to destroy a group that is trying to reduce carbon emissions and car use in Bristol?

lots of love

Dave Rose x